Veganism. Any soul-mates?

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lulu пишет: 03 апр 2018, 18:29
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liana пишет: 03 апр 2018, 17:50 I resolved to observe Lent
Observe what, sorry? )
she meant Lenta.ru
A news website? How come one is going to eat news? ))
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Kind_Punk пишет: 03 апр 2018, 18:19
liana пишет: 03 апр 2018, 17:50 I resolved to observe Lent
Observe what, sorry? )
It's "поститься". Aren't you Christian?
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liana пишет: 03 апр 2018, 18:55
Kind_Punk пишет: 03 апр 2018, 18:19
liana пишет: 03 апр 2018, 17:50 I resolved to observe Lent
Observe what, sorry? )
It's "поститься". Aren't you Christian?
Didn't know the verb has other meanings ) and what Lent is )

I do not observe it, though I believe I do not violate the Ten Commandments )
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liana, no, it is "fasting".

Once I decided to fast.

UPD: Ooops, sorry, it is actually Lent for Orthodox Christians, but it is a special kind of fasting, "Великий пост". Didn't know that, as Lent is not in the Bible.
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lulu пишет: 03 апр 2018, 16:03 I feed street dogs.
Do you feed them on vegetables?
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Belka_Teacher пишет: 03 апр 2018, 20:22 it is actually Lent for Orthodox Christians
Not only for Orthodox, but for Catholics and Anglicans, too (at least).
Yes, a lot of things are not prescribed by the word of the Bible; to say that the whole Christian tradition is founded on the Bible would be a fundamental fallacy.
(no holy war intended, of course)
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Kind_Punk пишет: 03 апр 2018, 19:27 I believe I do not violate the Ten Commandments
The text exists in interpretation and in interpretation only.
Everything depends on the way you interpret the Decalogue.
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Yety пишет: 03 апр 2018, 23:22 interpret the Decalogue.
They are quite clear to me:


Thou shalt

1 have no other gods before me - especially Mammon
2 not make unto thee any graven image - do not try to be like, like, a pop-star
3 not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain - for because )
4 remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy - or you'll end up in an asylum, working 7/24 )
5 honour thy father and thy mother - for you are a human being and not an animal
6 not kill - imho 'murder'
7 not commit adultery - for it's disgusting
8 not steal - for it's not needed for survival
9 not bear false witness against thy neighbour - for only men getting no respect do this
10 not covet (neighbour's servants, animals, or anything else) - for you don't really need those
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Kind_Punk пишет: 03 апр 2018, 23:42 They are quite clear to me:
Your 'self-evident' retelling of every commandment only goes to show that
Yety пишет: 03 апр 2018, 23:22 The text exists in interpretation and in interpretation only.
Thus, you let your own morals interpret Moses' Law, making it Kind_Punk's Creed.
It's one way or the other - either you let the Tradition embrace and transform you, or you dissect and transform the Tradition to fit your presuppositions.
Yet, I doubt it's the right place to discuss it in more detail.
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Yety пишет: 04 апр 2018, 00:08 making it Kind_Punk's Creed.
It seems so ) I won't be arguing.
Yety пишет: 04 апр 2018, 00:08 you dissect and transform the Tradition
I'm not Clive Barker's Agonistes ) But not much into religion either.
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Lent

the 40 days before Easter when some Christians eat less food or stop doing something that they enjoy
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vvinnie пишет: 20 апр 2018, 20:58 Lent
the 40 days before Easter when some Christians eat less food or stop doing something that they enjoy
А rather funny definition of Lent from https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/lent ))) Probably, in simple English.

Quadragesima. The fasting period in the Orthodox tradition is actually longer.

In the Orthodox Church:
Sundays are included -> 7 days x 6 weeks = 42 days minus 2 days (that's why Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday are technically not part of Great Lent). But Passion/Holy Week, though being technically separate from Great Lent, is still fasting time.
Thus, the whole fasting period of Great Lent starts on Clean Monday, lasts for 7 weeks ending on Easter Sunday. The total of 48 days (40+2+6=48).
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Great Lent officially begins on Clean Monday, seven weeks before Pascha (Ash Wednesday is not observed in Eastern Christianity) and runs for 40 contiguous days, concluding with the Presanctified Liturgy on Friday of the Sixth Week. The next day is called Lazarus Saturday, the day before Palm Sunday. (Thus, in case the Easter dates coincide, Clean Monday is two days before Ash Wednesday.)
Fasting continues throughout the following week, known as Passion Week or Holy Week, and does not end until after the Paschal Vigil early in the morning of Pascha (Easter Sunday).
In Oriental Orthodoxy (ante-Chalcedonian tradition):
Saturdays and Sundays are not included -> 5 days x 8 weeks = 40 days (that's why Quadragesima starts one week earlier, on Monday of Greek Orthodoxy Pancake Week). And Passion Week is perceived as part of Great Lent.
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In Ethiopian Orthodoxy, fasting (tsome) lasts for 55 continuous days before Easter (Fasika), although the fast is divided into three separate periods: Tsome Hirkal, eight days commemorating an early Christian figure; Tsome Arba, 40 days of Lent; and Tsome Himamat, seven days commemorating Holy Week.
In the Roman Catholic Church:
Sundays are not included -> 6 days x 6 weeks = 36 days plus 4 days (that's why Lent starts on Ash Wednesday (after Shrove Tuesday included in 3-day Shrovetide). And Holy Week is perceived as part of the Lenten fasting as well.
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Йэтимологические заметки.

Quadragesima [ˌkwɔdrə'ʤesɪmə]
1) = Quadragesima Sunday воскресенье первой недели Великого поста
2) Четыредесятица, Великий пост
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Quadragesima
c. 1600, from Medieval Latin quadragesima (dies) "the fortieth (day)," altered diminutive of Latin quadrigesimus "fortieth," from quadriginta "forty," related to quattuor "four" (from PIE root *kwetwer- "four"). Related: Quadragesimal.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Lent
Lent, похоже, back formation от Lenten, которое сейчас воспринимается как производное прилагательное - "long days" ("дни становятся длиннее..."). Элемент -ten - когнат с ЦС "день" - какие узелки глубокие.)
... short for Lenten (n.)... from Old English lencten "springtime, spring," the season, also "the fast of Lent," from West Germanic *langitinaz "long-days," or "lengthening of the day" ... This prehistoric compound probably refers to increasing daylight in spring and is reconstructed to be from *langaz "long" (source of long (adj.)) + *tina- "day" ..., which is cognate with Old Church Slavonic dini, ... Latin dies "day" (from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine").
... The -en in Lenten (n.) was perhaps mistaken for an affix.
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Irregardless пишет: 26 апр 2018, 18:50 For vegan-haters: https://lenta.ru/articles/2017/08/25/devochki/
What did you post it for and how is it connected with veganism?

'Kill a beaver, save a tree' is a joke, BTW )
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Kind_Punk пишет: 26 апр 2018, 22:37
Irregardless пишет: 26 апр 2018, 18:50 For vegan-haters: https://lenta.ru/articles/2017/08/25/devochki/
What did you post it for and how is it connected with veganism?

'Kill a beaver, save a tree' is a joke, BTW )
I mean that after lots of crimes against domestic animals in Russia, many pet-lovers may start thinking about veganism. And I am not an exception.
I kept to veganism for 3 months. It was hard due to the limited variety of fruit and vegs in Russia. But after keeping for some time to this diet I felt much better. First of all, I had eaten lots of carrot salads. I got lots of vitamin A, so my liver state has become much better. Secondly, the functions of my endocrine system have drastically improved. My issues with hormones were solved. Thirdly, I lost some weight. What's more, when I returned to meat-eating, I continued to lose weight. Veganism made my body work. Fourthly, I have become much rational and calm. Even after finishing the diet, the stress rate continues to be quite low, because for some reason my mind learned how to separate the wheat from the chaff, and now I know how to use my energy in the right way. I am not a doctor, of course. Just something from my experience. And I am going to return to veganism soon.
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By the way, it is not compulsorily to go to the extremes in order to be eco-friendly. Sometimes, it is just enough to increase the amount of carrot, potato, cabbage, zucchini, pumpkin, aubergine, and sweet pepper in your meals. And 100 grams of carrot cost 1 ruble in Russia. You can count how much could be saved for your personal budget if you became a bit of a veggie. 😊
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Irregardless пишет: 26 апр 2018, 23:17 fter lots of crimes against domestic animals in Russia, many pet-lovers may start thinking about veganism
More likely, about cannibalism, lol )

Actually, I do not see a connection. No one (well, almost) eats cats and dogs. And no one kills pigs in a sadistic manner )
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Kind_Punk пишет: 27 апр 2018, 10:42
Irregardless пишет: 26 апр 2018, 23:17 fter lots of crimes against domestic animals in Russia, many pet-lovers may start thinking about veganism
More likely, about cannibalism, lol )

Actually, I do not see a connection. No one (well, almost) eats cats and dogs. And no one kills pigs in a sadistic manner )
Everybody does anything that can help them to feel better. Sometimes people need to believe in something.

Especially, if they don't want to have a family and are true child-free people, like me. I have dedicated my life to work and studies, I dislike even the thought of being married and having children, and my parents support my ideas of being single and building up of my own company. My parents recommend me to never marry and have no kids in order to be free, self-sufficing and highly independent, to have no boundaries and no problems with my working hours, space, money, etc.

My neighbors prefer religion. I prefer veganism. It is my religion.

P.S. Having looked through the text and got horrified! How unkind I seem to be: kids-hater, men-hater, family-hater, workaholic-antitheist. But I love animals. ;D
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Irregardless пишет: 27 апр 2018, 13:50 How unkind I seem to be
Whatever, man ) Live your life and let the others live theirs )

Wait ) Are you, like, a girl? )
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Kind_Punk пишет: 27 апр 2018, 16:06 Wait ) Are you, like, a girl? )
yes, of course. Are you surprised? ;D
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Irregardless пишет: 27 апр 2018, 21:19
Kind_Punk пишет: 27 апр 2018, 16:06 Wait ) Are you, like, a girl? )
yes, of course. Are you surprised? ;D
Well, no ) But for a time it was a genderless message, but then I saw 'men-hater'. I'd never seen a man that hates men because they are, like, men )) So I did the math )
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Irregardless пишет: 27 апр 2018, 13:50 I prefer veganism. It is my religion. Удалено модератором. п.п. 2.11
Right now you are abusing my feelings. Please, stop that. Stay in subject.
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Snow Queen пишет: 28 апр 2018, 17:26
Irregardless пишет: 27 апр 2018, 13:50 I prefer veganism. It is my religion. Удалено модератором. п.п. 2.11
Right now you are abusing my feelings. Please, stop that. Stay in subject.
hahaha, looks like anybody can abuse the feelings of vegans a lot, but vegans even don't have any right to prove their position. Double standards, as it has always been in Russia.
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Irregardless, you're free to express what ever you want, but you have to stick to the rules. Like it's always been all over the world.
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