Should we live longer?
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By the way, some text I like:
“Life is a strange thing. Why this longing for life? It is a game which no man wins. To live is to toil hard and to suffer sore, till old age creeps heavily upon us and we throw down our hands on the cold ashes of dead fires. It is hard to live. In pain the babe sucks his first breath, in pain the old man gasps his last, and all his days are full of trouble and sorrow; yet he goes down to the open arms of death, stumbling, falling, with head turned backward, fighting to the last. And death is kind. It is only life and the things of life that hurt. Yet we love life and we hate death. It is very strange.”
“Life is a strange thing. Why this longing for life? It is a game which no man wins. To live is to toil hard and to suffer sore, till old age creeps heavily upon us and we throw down our hands on the cold ashes of dead fires. It is hard to live. In pain the babe sucks his first breath, in pain the old man gasps his last, and all his days are full of trouble and sorrow; yet he goes down to the open arms of death, stumbling, falling, with head turned backward, fighting to the last. And death is kind. It is only life and the things of life that hurt. Yet we love life and we hate death. It is very strange.”
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“And death is kind. It is only life and the things of life that hurt.”
Do you disagree?
Do you disagree?
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This "You can't get hurt if you're not alive" desperately needs to be put onto the appropriate picture.
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Mary May,
the quote belongs to Jack London, and for the life of me I can't believe he would encourage people to commit suicide. His books are the antithesis of giving in :)
the quote belongs to Jack London, and for the life of me I can't believe he would encourage people to commit suicide. His books are the antithesis of giving in :)
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acapnotic,
you got me here :)
However, hardly anyone of us is close to a half-literate boy who turned into a successful writer during quite a short period of time. Geniuses are fragile, but Mother Nature is wise, and most of us are ordinary and much sturdier, if you ask me.
you got me here :)
However, hardly anyone of us is close to a half-literate boy who turned into a successful writer during quite a short period of time. Geniuses are fragile, but Mother Nature is wise, and most of us are ordinary and much sturdier, if you ask me.
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Reminded me of:the Tempter пишет: ↑02 май 2019, 11:02 “And death is kind. It is only life and the things of life that hurt.”
Do you disagree?
"Dying is easy, it's living that scares me to death."
Survival is our strongest instinct. That and procreation. Beats any kind of logic (almost) every time. And it's a good thing.
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Of course, people are irrational to a great extent. Strangely enough, It helps sometimes.
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Shame on me, I was too ignorant to recognise the quotation.Juliemiracle пишет: ↑02 май 2019, 16:48 Mary May,
the quote belongs to Jack London, and for the life of me I can't believe he would encourage people to commit suicide. His books are the antithesis of giving in :)
Still, what I said in #28, was not what you're putting into my mouth.
I said that "but for the last two sentences" I would think the words sounded like "discouragement from life". <But that suggests that because of these two I wouldn't say so...>
Geniuses are often fragile, agree; and they are a rare exception to our vast ordinary majority.Juliemiracle пишет: ↑02 май 2019, 18:01 ...Geniuses are fragile, but Mother Nature is wise, and most of us are ordinary and much sturdier, if you ask me.
But those two facts do not mean that our ordinariness can automatically guarantee us emotional sustainability and immunity to suicidal temptations, I'm sorry to say (
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Well, that's pretty one-sided logic (as I'm sure should be obvious to anyone). Death doesn't have all the life's negative things, but it doesn't have all of its positive things either. If I stop living I'll lose all of the life's pleasure and potential experiences forever, so why should I? Of course, when the suffering gets too much, some people may be swayed into "it's not worth it" kind of thinking, but that doesn't make it the best solution (except for some extreme circumstances, that are the subject of euthanasia debates). People are notorious for making stupid and irrational life decisions (especially when their minds are overwhelmed with some strong emotions). You can only have one life, don't squander it.
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No, no, I got you. I meant that knowing who the author of the quote is, even without these last 2 sentences, I'd never have thought he could encourage such things.
Sure. Again I just wanted to point out that no way the death of a genius in "Martin Eden" hinted at the support of suicide by J. London.
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I think it helps to lighten up a bit and just have some good ol’ fun. Most of the time people are so full of themselves and their PROBLEMS. While ultimately what does it all matter? We are here for one reason or another, so let’s make the best of it.the Tempter пишет: ↑03 май 2019, 11:41 Of course, people are irrational to a great extent. Strangely enough, It helps sometimes.
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I think that much more interesting question is 'How long should we live?' It certainly isn't enough what we have now, but to live for an indefinite period of time seems to me even worse. What are we going to do for millennia to come? Repeat over and over again what we did in the previous century? I don't know. It doesn't look interesting enough. Maybe a few centuries will well suffice, but no more.
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That is why we don't see advanced civilizations. They are all gone, couldn't bear the sheer vastness of time, and space, and boredom.
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To tell you the truth, Paradise and Hell is the same place. How you receive it depends only on the amount of time you have been there. Don't believe 'occasional tourists'. Trust me, I know better ;)
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But how many times have you eaten? Thousands, but you get hungry and you want to eat again. Why haven't you been bored to death by this activity?the Tempter пишет: ↑03 май 2019, 15:08 Repeat over and over again what we did in the previous century? I don't know. It doesn't look interesting enough.
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It is beyond human capacity to comprehend eternal life. If people could, they wouldn't wish it. Poor things.
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Mankind's dream of enternal life still inspires people today and you'll probably experience it in the final.)the Tempter пишет: ↑03 май 2019, 20:06 It is beyond human capacity to comprehend eternal life. If people could, they wouldn't wish it. Poor things.
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Connor MacLeod?the Tempter пишет: ↑03 май 2019, 20:06 It is beyond human capacity to comprehend eternal life. If people could, they wouldn't wish it.
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