Добрый день. Все время думал, что когда говорят brand new, то имеют ввиду какую-то вещь, которую недавно выпустили. Сегодня слушал подкаст и там такое предложение:
My wife was in the hospital with our brand new daughter..
(Luke's podcast ep.502 time: 5min 05sec. link - https://teacherluke.co.uk/2018/01/03/50 ... -daughter/)
Меня это мягко сказать покорежило. Получается brand new можно использовать и для людей?
И как лучше перевести такое предложение. Просто "новый\ая"?
Перевод от Cambridge Dictionary,
"Brand new - Completely new, especially not yet used" =\
Brand new
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Естественно, в шутку.
Idioms and their Origins (Eng-Eng)
brand new
= entirely new, completely new
Here brand has nothing to do with the mark of workmanship, but means ‘firebrand, piece of burning wood’. Brand new comes from the smith’s trade and so was originally used only of objects made of metal which were literally fire-new, fresh from the furnace.
A man of fire-new words.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Love s Labour’s Lost, 1595.
usage: The addition of brand intensifies the basic sense of new, as did spanking in the very dated spanking new. Occasionally written as one word, more frequently hyphenated. Now most commonly as two words.
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Longman Language Activator
brand new /ˌbrænd ˈnjuː◂ǁ-ˈnuː◂/ [adjective]
use this when you want to make it very clear that something has not been used or owned by anyone before:
▪ My brother’s just bought a brand new BMW.
▪ When did you buy this sofa? It looks completely brand new.
brandnew
completely new [adj phrase]
Van Morrison has just brought out a brand new record. | 'Wash and Go'is a brand new shampoo from Vidal Sassoon.
Idioms and their Origins (Eng-Eng)
brand new
= entirely new, completely new
Here brand has nothing to do with the mark of workmanship, but means ‘firebrand, piece of burning wood’. Brand new comes from the smith’s trade and so was originally used only of objects made of metal which were literally fire-new, fresh from the furnace.
A man of fire-new words.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Love s Labour’s Lost, 1595.
usage: The addition of brand intensifies the basic sense of new, as did spanking in the very dated spanking new. Occasionally written as one word, more frequently hyphenated. Now most commonly as two words.
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Longman Language Activator
brand new /ˌbrænd ˈnjuː◂ǁ-ˈnuː◂/ [adjective]
use this when you want to make it very clear that something has not been used or owned by anyone before:
▪ My brother’s just bought a brand new BMW.
▪ When did you buy this sofa? It looks completely brand new.
brandnew
completely new [adj phrase]
Van Morrison has just brought out a brand new record. | 'Wash and Go'is a brand new shampoo from Vidal Sassoon.
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Я согласен, что в выражении "brand new daughter" есть доли иронии, но я бы не сказал, что "дочка только с конвейера" правильно передает ее. Более того, это выражение часто используется не только про своих детей. Приведу только несколько надписей с поздравительных открыток:
Bet your thrilled and happy
And as proud as you can be,
Of that brand new little baby boy
Who's joined your family!
Congratulations on your new son.
Happy to hear it's a boy.
Congratulations to you both, how happy you must be,
That a brand new son and heir has joined your family.
So here are warmest wishes, that you'll know still greater joy
As with the years that tiny lad becomes a big fine boy.
All the best!
Oh boy, it's a boy!
There's someone new at your house
Who's causing a distraction,
So welcome to your brand new
Little center of attraction.
Congratulations!
Это выражение часто встречается
Вот книжки даже есть
https://www.harpercollins.com/978006053 ... baby-blues
Вот книжки даже есть
https://www.harpercollins.com/978006053 ... baby-blues
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"brand new baby" - гугль выдает огроменное количество ссылок, хоть в книгах смотри, хоть в новостях.
Значит, так говорят.
Из статьи Гардиан:
It’s too late for us adults, of course. But a brand-new baby makes it possible to believe in the fantasy once more.
Значит, так говорят.
Из статьи Гардиан:
It’s too late for us adults, of course. But a brand-new baby makes it possible to believe in the fantasy once more.
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Если уж о беременности они говорят bun in the oven, ничего удивительного, что о новорожденном говорят как brand new baby.
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Brand(-)new про людей может быть даже со словом newcomer:
https://books.google.com/books?id=_V8wD ... 22&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=_V8wD ... 22&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=NkM_D ... hDoAQgrMAEIt was a brand-new newcomer, and I was not about to open my mouth. They left me the hell alone. As this newcomer walked, they made him out, then all at once they jumped out and began to feed up on his fresh body. When they caught him, they strung him up and started to eat his heart and lungs first, taking their hands ...
"Have you tried submitting elsewhere as a brand new newcomer? Under another name? Not legal, I confess, in the face of your contract but—I'm curious to know?”
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