Цензурный мат
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Поделитесь пожалуйста в этой теме своим опытом понимания сокрощений мата, используемого в офицальной английской прессе, такие как:
sh*t == shit
s*** == shit
b*******s == bums
Ain't life ab***h == Ain't life a bitch
Наличие словаря английского мата, не всегда помогает понять, о чем идет речь, а поисковики и переводчик гугла воспринимают символ "*" как служебный.
sh*t == shit
s*** == shit
b*******s == bums
Ain't life ab***h == Ain't life a bitch
Наличие словаря английского мата, не всегда помогает понять, о чем идет речь, а поисковики и переводчик гугла воспринимают символ "*" как служебный.
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Вряд ли это можно назвать матом. :) В США долгое время существовал список из семи слов, которые нельзя употреблять на радио.
Но политкорректность все нарастает.... Я лично с сокращениями bums и т.п. никогда не сталкивался. Думаю, догадываться из контекста разве что.
Привожу контекст:
Grandmothers wearing 'f**k Brexit' badges, yellow vest protesters and thousands of other politically inflamed people descended on Parliament ahead of today's historical vote.
Their alleged antics were so bad the Mayor of Auckland Phil Goff referred to them as 'trash' and 'a**holes'.
It appears as though two women, who enter the shop with the boys and another man, were also hiding items in their
Morrison did eventually dial 999 and told police: 'Oh my f***ing God, I tried to kill my mum. You better get on to that.'
Grandmothers wearing 'f**k Brexit' badges, yellow vest protesters and thousands of other politically inflamed people descended on Parliament ahead of today's historical vote.
Their alleged antics were so bad the Mayor of Auckland Phil Goff referred to them as 'trash' and 'a**holes'.
It appears as though two women, who enter the shop with the boys and another man, were also hiding items in their
Morrison did eventually dial 999 and told police: 'Oh my f***ing God, I tried to kill my mum. You better get on to that.'
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The Guardian_The risks of using asterisks in place of swearwords
Omitting letters can confuse. How is the poor reader expected to differentiate between b******* and b*******?
И полистать по запросу asterisk used in swear wordsWe have become so used to reporting language as it is spoken, or alleged to have been spoken, that during my close involvement in editing many of these stories it never crossed my mind that we might not quote the words, however offensive, in full. Nor had I paid much attention to other newspapers' approach until a Twitter user commented that, before he saw the word "knobhead" in the Guardian, he did not know what the word denoted by another newspaper as k******* was supposed to be. I sympathise. How is the poor reader expected to differentiate between b******* and b*******? (The former, of course, is "bastards"; the latter, "bollocks".)
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А так же, как заменить "*" в приведенном мною контексте?
А так же, как заменить "*" в приведенном мною контексте?
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Так у Вас же там два слова всего. :)
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/fuck
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/asshole
Ну, запоминать просто - таких очень мало.
И, конечно, там не bums - звездочек-то больше :)
Вот это посмотрите:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-letter_word
Слово c**t обычно вообще социально неприемлемо, остальные - по ситуации.
Это я и просил пояснить, что a**holes == asshole
а так же привести попадающиеся вам сокращения
а так же привести попадающиеся вам сокращения
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Мне они больше не попадаются :)
А сокращения, повторюсь, бывают только от "неприличных" слов и их очень мало (сокращение bums меня очень удивило, но, к счастью, разобрались, что до этого еще не дошло :) ). Ссылочку Вам дал, вот эти и будут попадаться - f***, asshole, shit etc. Это не вопрос сокращений, а вопрос знания таких слов.
Если вдруг попадется то, что Вы не знаете (если пяток основных знаете, это будет очень редко) - просто можно здесь спросить или на любом англоязычном форуме.
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The A Word is Asshole
The B Word is Bitch
The C Word is Cunt
The D Word is Dick
The F Word is Fuck
The K Word is Kike
The M Word is Moist (It's not really a swear word but lots of people hate this word
The B Word is Bitch
The C Word is Cunt
The D Word is Dick
The F Word is Fuck
The K Word is Kike
The M Word is Moist (It's not really a swear word but lots of people hate this word
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Из сказанного ранее я составил, если не ошибся, такой перевод:
sh*t == shit
s*** == shit
b***h == bitch
b*******s == bollocks
b******* == bollocks / bastards
f**k == fuck
f***ing == fucing
k******* == knobhead
a**holes == asshole
c**t == cunt
Не могли бы Вы подсказать как понять сокращения из приведенного ниже контекста, в виде:
n***** == .....
Context1: Actress Kathy Burke's foul-mouthed attack on Prince Philip after car crash. The 54-year-old notoriously outspoken actress raged: 'Very pleased that the 9 month old innocent baby wasn't killed or injured by the 97 year old selfish c**t,' after the crash in Norfolk.
Context2: Brit 'a***hole' family in trouble AGAIN as they get parking fine in New Zealand
Four of the 'unruly clan' were spotted at Auckland Airport this morning - but sped off in a car which was reportedly later slapped with a parking ticket
Context3: Seven's mother Tami Charles also told of how their son – an only child who she waited years to conceive – was throttled and called a 'N*****' while riding the schoolbus home from Kerrick Elementary School in August 2018.
White girls leave university after blackface video shows one screeching 'I'm a n*****'.
A pair of white students have have left their university after a video emerged of them doing blackface as one says 'I'm a n*****'.
With the paint covering her face, one of them looks right at the camera and declares 'I'm a N*****' before the girls erupt in laughter again. It is unclear from the video which girl is Ford, and which is Urban.
sh*t == shit
s*** == shit
b***h == bitch
b*******s == bollocks
b******* == bollocks / bastards
f**k == fuck
f***ing == fucing
k******* == knobhead
a**holes == asshole
c**t == cunt
Не могли бы Вы подсказать как понять сокращения из приведенного ниже контекста, в виде:
n***** == .....
Context1: Actress Kathy Burke's foul-mouthed attack on Prince Philip after car crash. The 54-year-old notoriously outspoken actress raged: 'Very pleased that the 9 month old innocent baby wasn't killed or injured by the 97 year old selfish c**t,' after the crash in Norfolk.
Context2: Brit 'a***hole' family in trouble AGAIN as they get parking fine in New Zealand
Four of the 'unruly clan' were spotted at Auckland Airport this morning - but sped off in a car which was reportedly later slapped with a parking ticket
Context3: Seven's mother Tami Charles also told of how their son – an only child who she waited years to conceive – was throttled and called a 'N*****' while riding the schoolbus home from Kerrick Elementary School in August 2018.
White girls leave university after blackface video shows one screeching 'I'm a n*****'.
A pair of white students have have left their university after a video emerged of them doing blackface as one says 'I'm a n*****'.
With the paint covering her face, one of them looks right at the camera and declares 'I'm a N*****' before the girls erupt in laughter again. It is unclear from the video which girl is Ford, and which is Urban.
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Вероятно, nitwit. Впрочем, точно сказать не могу - в тех кругах, что я общался, вообще ничего не сокращали :).
А, ну еще текст посмотрел - может быть 'nigger', раз там про белых и черных. Это уже с большой буквы пишут? Вообще, это слово совершенно нормально в речи афроамериканцев про себя и друг друга, так что из контекста, вроде, похоже. Но как-то уж очень банально...
А, ну еще текст посмотрел - может быть 'nigger', раз там про белых и черных. Это уже с большой буквы пишут? Вообще, это слово совершенно нормально в речи афроамериканцев про себя и друг друга, так что из контекста, вроде, похоже. Но как-то уж очень банально...
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Лишний астерикс - из-за варианта написания/произношения 'arsehole'.
По аналогии с давним написанием Negro.
(When is a slur not a slur? The use of nigger in ‘Pulp Fiction’)There is a case for all of Black, White, and Nigger to be awarded an initial capital letter (like Negro). However, ...
When and why did the N-word and “negro” go apart?
Но за эти сто лет много воды утекло...)By 1919, the Negro Year Book could report: "There is an increasing use of the word 'Negro' and a decreasing use of the word 'colored' and 'Afro-American' to designate us as a people. The result is that the word 'Negro' is, more and more, acquiring a dignity that it did not have in the past." During this same period, there was an aggressive campaign for capitalization of the word "Negro." This campaign, which was led by the NAACP, peaked in 1930 when the New York Times announced that it would print the word "Negro" with a capital letter. In an editorial (March 7, 1930), the newspaper said: "In our 'style book' 'Negro' is now added to the list of words to be capitalized. It is not merely a typographical change; it is an act of recognition of racial self-respect for those who have been for generations in 'the lower case.'"
The fall of Negro happened in the 1960s, with another group of black intellectuals and activists arguing that the term simply could not be separated from its use during the period of slavery.
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Не подскажите следующие сокращения: (написание другое, может быть и смысл дугой)
Context4: Video footage shows a section of home fans chanting: 'I'd rather be a p*** than as Scouse' during their 3-2 victory over Everton.
Context5: The court heard how days before, the brothers posted a picture of themselves on social media 'grinning inanely' and giving the middle finger, with the caption 'f*** da police'.
Context6: He wrote: 'Absolutely devastated about me face nice one to all the Everton lads and everyone who has messaged me and the Liverpool lads who have messaged me much appreciated I can't even look at me self In the mirror daft c*** award goes to me again?'
Context4: Video footage shows a section of home fans chanting: 'I'd rather be a p*** than as Scouse' during their 3-2 victory over Everton.
Context5: The court heard how days before, the brothers posted a picture of themselves on social media 'grinning inanely' and giving the middle finger, with the caption 'f*** da police'.
Context6: He wrote: 'Absolutely devastated about me face nice one to all the Everton lads and everyone who has messaged me and the Liverpool lads who have messaged me much appreciated I can't even look at me self In the mirror daft c*** award goes to me again?'
Попалось такое сокращение, что там можно дописать:
A hacker spoke through a couple's Nest security camera, taunting them and calling them 'Nigger*.'
Arjun Sud said he was terrified when he heard a man's voice coming from his 7-month-old son's room in their house just outside of Chicago, Illinois.
Sud said when he ran into the room the voice abruptly stopped.
Не подскажите следующие сокращения:
Context7: 'So if any of you know who's done this, please tell me. Because I'm going to kill him.
'Help me find the b*****d that's done this.'
Liam Neeson reveals he walked the streets with a weapon looking for a 'black b*****d' to kill. Liam Neeson has ignited a race row after speaking for the first time about his extreme reaction when he learned a loved one had allegedly been raped while he was overseas.
Liam Neeson appears on Good Morning America to insist he's Not racist. The star appeared on Good Morning America in New York this morning 24 hours after he revealed how he once stalked the streets armed with a cosh hoping to murder a 'black b*****d'.
Context8: Meghan Markle's sister slams her 'bulls**t stories' and says Duchess has 'lie-abetes'
A hacker spoke through a couple's Nest security camera, taunting them and calling them 'Nigger*.'
Arjun Sud said he was terrified when he heard a man's voice coming from his 7-month-old son's room in their house just outside of Chicago, Illinois.
Sud said when he ran into the room the voice abruptly stopped.
Не подскажите следующие сокращения:
Context7: 'So if any of you know who's done this, please tell me. Because I'm going to kill him.
'Help me find the b*****d that's done this.'
Liam Neeson reveals he walked the streets with a weapon looking for a 'black b*****d' to kill. Liam Neeson has ignited a race row after speaking for the first time about his extreme reaction when he learned a loved one had allegedly been raped while he was overseas.
Liam Neeson appears on Good Morning America to insist he's Not racist. The star appeared on Good Morning America in New York this morning 24 hours after he revealed how he once stalked the streets armed with a cosh hoping to murder a 'black b*****d'.
Context8: Meghan Markle's sister slams her 'bulls**t stories' and says Duchess has 'lie-abetes'
Не подскажите следующие сокращения:
Context9: Giant billboards mocking Leave MPs is work of 'four p****d off dads'.
'We are four dads just p****d off by the state of our country and wanted to do something about it.
But Led by Donkeys, who Metro revealed are a 'dad's army' of 'p****d off' remainers, called on young Labour voters to spray paint their demands onto the billboard as a message to Corbyn, and call for a #People'sVote.
Context10: Runner gains massive following - for jogging in the shape of a penis. Claire said she would encourage everyone to have a "d**krun" or two.
Context11: 'My husband normally carries the spare key with him but he had left it in a bag at home.
'They found the key in the bag and came back and reversed the car off the drive but then the silly t***s couldn't title out how to get it in drive.'
Context12: A 30-year-old Muslim worshipper at the Burhan Uddin mosque in Buckfast Street, Bethnal Green, told The Times: 'She's taking the pi**s. She's not saying, "I've been groomed, it was a mistake".
Context13: One woman put the question to other mums on Mumsnet: "Will it scar my son for life if I let him find out for himself that it is, in fact, 'bread sticks' he loves, not "big d*cks'?"! And it seems she's not the only one letting the hilarious mispronunciations play out a little longer than they probably should.
Сегодня попалась забавная статья:
16 Of The Best Toddler Mispronunciations From Cucumbumber to Pissmas.
Parents have all been there: hearing your toddler try out a word they've never said before, only to realise they've completely mispronounced it. Adorable, huh?
Do you correct them, knowing they'll never call a "magazine" a "mazageen" again (that was my sister, when she was tiny) or enjoy the innocence and unintentional comedy your child is serving up?
One woman put the question to other mums on Mumsnet: "Will it scar my son for life if I let him find out for himself that it is, in fact, 'bread sticks' he loves, not "big d*cks'?!" And it seems she's not the only one letting the hilarious mispronunciations play out a little longer than they probably should.
Dickman for Stickman
"We allow our daughter to shout dick man at the top of her voice every time she spots anything that resembles her favourite book character, Stick Man. It goes down especially well at the park amongst other parents."
Cockporn for Popcorn
"My daughter proudly requested it at the cinema which was truly the best day of my life."
Flavour for Favour
"My daughter asked me earlier if I could "do her a flavour". I didn't correct her it was too cute!"
Cucumbumber for Cucumber
"My four-year-old son has called cucumber "cucumbumber" so long that it is now part of our standard home vocabulary. He knows it's not the right way to say it, but likes the sound of it so much (as it happens, so do I!) that he carries on and tells other people proudly what he calls it."
Cuddles for Puddles
"When my son starts saying muddy cuddles instead of muddy puddles I think I'll cry!"
Prophetic for Prosthetic
"It's too sweet to correct for now. When I told my granddaughter I couldn't lift her into the air when she sat on my leg because I've got a bad ankle she told me I could get my legs taken off and the doctor would give me 'prophetic' ones I couldn't bear to correct her. It was too funny."
Cocks for Clocks
"My little boy used to be obsessed with clocks. There was a big clock in the doctors reception behind the receptionist. He used to point at the receptionist and shout " cock" very loudly."
Flum for Thumb
"Mine says flum instead of thumb and now we all do, she also struggled for ages knowing when to stop on Rhinoceros, it was rhinoceros-eros-eros-eros."
Pissmas for Christmas
"My favourite when my son was three was Pissmas. Never corrected it. Was very upset this year when he said it properly."
Mipples for Meatballs
"My daughter loved meatballs and pasta, but meatballs would come out as 'mipples'."
And just a few more...
:: Pootaste for toothpaste
:: Fuckits for pockets
:: Grand-ass for granddad
:: Wisbury's for Sainsbury's
:: Pissgetti for spaghetti.
Context9: Giant billboards mocking Leave MPs is work of 'four p****d off dads'.
'We are four dads just p****d off by the state of our country and wanted to do something about it.
But Led by Donkeys, who Metro revealed are a 'dad's army' of 'p****d off' remainers, called on young Labour voters to spray paint their demands onto the billboard as a message to Corbyn, and call for a #People'sVote.
Context10: Runner gains massive following - for jogging in the shape of a penis. Claire said she would encourage everyone to have a "d**krun" or two.
Context11: 'My husband normally carries the spare key with him but he had left it in a bag at home.
'They found the key in the bag and came back and reversed the car off the drive but then the silly t***s couldn't title out how to get it in drive.'
Context12: A 30-year-old Muslim worshipper at the Burhan Uddin mosque in Buckfast Street, Bethnal Green, told The Times: 'She's taking the pi**s. She's not saying, "I've been groomed, it was a mistake".
Context13: One woman put the question to other mums on Mumsnet: "Will it scar my son for life if I let him find out for himself that it is, in fact, 'bread sticks' he loves, not "big d*cks'?"! And it seems she's not the only one letting the hilarious mispronunciations play out a little longer than they probably should.
Сегодня попалась забавная статья:
16 Of The Best Toddler Mispronunciations From Cucumbumber to Pissmas.
Parents have all been there: hearing your toddler try out a word they've never said before, only to realise they've completely mispronounced it. Adorable, huh?
Do you correct them, knowing they'll never call a "magazine" a "mazageen" again (that was my sister, when she was tiny) or enjoy the innocence and unintentional comedy your child is serving up?
One woman put the question to other mums on Mumsnet: "Will it scar my son for life if I let him find out for himself that it is, in fact, 'bread sticks' he loves, not "big d*cks'?!" And it seems she's not the only one letting the hilarious mispronunciations play out a little longer than they probably should.
Dickman for Stickman
"We allow our daughter to shout dick man at the top of her voice every time she spots anything that resembles her favourite book character, Stick Man. It goes down especially well at the park amongst other parents."
Cockporn for Popcorn
"My daughter proudly requested it at the cinema which was truly the best day of my life."
Flavour for Favour
"My daughter asked me earlier if I could "do her a flavour". I didn't correct her it was too cute!"
Cucumbumber for Cucumber
"My four-year-old son has called cucumber "cucumbumber" so long that it is now part of our standard home vocabulary. He knows it's not the right way to say it, but likes the sound of it so much (as it happens, so do I!) that he carries on and tells other people proudly what he calls it."
Cuddles for Puddles
"When my son starts saying muddy cuddles instead of muddy puddles I think I'll cry!"
Prophetic for Prosthetic
"It's too sweet to correct for now. When I told my granddaughter I couldn't lift her into the air when she sat on my leg because I've got a bad ankle she told me I could get my legs taken off and the doctor would give me 'prophetic' ones I couldn't bear to correct her. It was too funny."
Cocks for Clocks
"My little boy used to be obsessed with clocks. There was a big clock in the doctors reception behind the receptionist. He used to point at the receptionist and shout " cock" very loudly."
Flum for Thumb
"Mine says flum instead of thumb and now we all do, she also struggled for ages knowing when to stop on Rhinoceros, it was rhinoceros-eros-eros-eros."
Pissmas for Christmas
"My favourite when my son was three was Pissmas. Never corrected it. Was very upset this year when he said it properly."
Mipples for Meatballs
"My daughter loved meatballs and pasta, but meatballs would come out as 'mipples'."
And just a few more...
:: Pootaste for toothpaste
:: Fuckits for pockets
:: Grand-ass for granddad
:: Wisbury's for Sainsbury's
:: Pissgetti for spaghetti.