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tourist пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 22:31 Eager Beaver,
It's just that your value,as I see it, has nothing to do with learning English.

Zlatko_Berrin пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 22:33

QwestDay пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 22:06 yeah, theory, practice, input..

I would be just interested only in the amount of time Eager Beaver devotes to English. I mean the total number of hours or at least the average number of hours spent per day. It would explain Beaver's level (to some extent, of course)... and show the correlation between the time spent studying English and the level of English. I think the correlation is strong enough.

Juliemiracle пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:01 I'd love to pratise my speaking skills the same way, though.

Eager Beaver пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 20:37 He tries to make me speak, but ends up doing most of the talking himself,

tourist пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:08 Juliemiracle,
discord group?

Easy-Breezy English пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:15

Eager Beaver пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 20:37 He tries to make me speak, but ends up doing most of the talking himself,

Curious. Why is that? Do you write better than you speak?

Eager Beaver пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:18 I don't know how you can compare writing with speaking.

Eager Beaver пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:01 As I probably told you in PMs, I put various amounts of time in learning English at different stages - from a few hours a day of actively studying grammar rules and doing exercises - to a half hour a day of reading for pleasure. Now, watching TV shows accounts for the bulk of what I'm doing (at least a couple of episodes every day). There is not much "active study" per se (except in an English class), but I'm trying hard not to cancel on my daily Anki review. Getting the right word or expression at the right time is what I'm struggling with the most, especially in speaking.

Juliemiracle пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:17 Eager Beaver,
ah, it's not the same. When you teach even high-level students, you have to think about maximising their speaking time, first of all. Secondly, a lot of what teachers say in class is actually boring instruction language. The last but not least, if I learn sth new I'd like to try out myself, I can't just pop it into my classroom practice mindlessly -- it'll be plain showing off. There's a good chance students won't understand it, so what's the point taking up precious class time? Or else if I really want them to benefit from what I bring in, I'd have to stop, attract their attention to this or that phrase etc, ask eliciting questions to check their undertstanding, maybe work it into our class discussion somehow, which all requires some time again, and I can't forget about covering the syllabus. So, yeah, it's complicated. Being a teacher of English doesn't really provide you with some free language practice, unfortunately :)

Easy-Breezy English пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:28

Eager Beaver пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:18 I don't know how you can compare writing with speaking.

Whichever comes easier is your stronger skill.
You are a programmer, right? I've known some programmers who could write beautifully, but when it came to talking they couldn't put two words together if their life depended on it. Seems to come with the job somehow.
Anyway, whatever you are doing is obviously working. You have a good reason to be proud, so why aren't you? :-)

Eager Beaver пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:50 there are more appropriate things to take pride in

Easy-Breezy English пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:57 Take it from a teacher - learning English to your level in two years is indicative of intelligence and very impressive linguistic abilities, trick or no trick.

Easy-Breezy English пишет: ↑09 июн 2019, 23:57 Such as?

Juliemiracle пишет: ↑10 июн 2019, 00:17 Eager Beaver,
sorry, but imho if a teacher spends classroom time showcasing their skills, they aren't that good. I might provide a model answer from time to time, but not for every single task; otherwise, my students will have no time to speak themselves. And don't forget that I work at a provincial uni, so my 'high-level' students are different from those in, say, Moscow State Uni. Sometimes I feel I'm suffocating. I love my job, and yet, I'd like to talk about something else in addition to the syllabus topics.

Eager Beaver пишет: ↑10 июн 2019, 00:20 This is rubbing me the wrong way, sorry.

Белая Мишка пишет: ↑12 июн 2019, 22:21 Ойнимагу, делала пробник (офиц сборник, тест 4), юз 18 ридинг 27.

Сделала все части, кроме ревюшной, переписала ответы. Осталось десять минут, чую от ревю мутит, дай думаю лучше проверю как следует седьмую часть, хрен с ними с ревю. Проверила, исправила два ответа. Правильные на неправильные)) То есть впервые в жизни сделала седьмую часть без ошибок, но это мне никак не помогло))
А это ведь четыре балла, т е 31, и если б я вместо проверки наугадывала в ревю, то был бы проходной балл в итоге.

Третий лисенинг из Вулканов - 19, первые три части все ничо, четвертая какая-то ядерная.

Белая Мишка пишет: ↑15 июн 2019, 21:24 Ааа, сделала пробник с сайта (sample 2) и пролезла по ридингу наконец, щас расплачусь)
33, юз 19.
Если бы в ридинге не исправила три (!) правильных ответа на неправильные, была бы вообще кросавчег.
Не нравится, что слов незнакомых пихают в важные, ответственные моменты))
Люди чета там misled by чем-то... это чо вообще?

Все, больше до субботы никаких пробников, каждый день один лисенинг, один райтинг и спикинг по возможности.